Pastor Jason Baumgardner
13 years ago
Friday, April 20, 2012
"Money Cometh to Me Now!" Why I left this Church and pray for those left behind!: Where does the money come from Joyce? An answer t...
"Money Cometh to Me Now!" Why I left this Church and pray for those left behind!: Where does the money come from Joyce? An answer t...: I received this comment on one of the posts recently and would like to give a few answers, Here is the comment first: Sorry, I'm not very k...
Where does the money come from Joyce? An answer to a readers question
I received this comment on one of the posts recently and would like to give a few answers, Here is the comment first:
Sorry, I'm not very knowledgeable about tithing or what this Storehouse is. But what I would like to know is where all this money is coming from that enables Joyce to live so high on the hog? Rent and utilities and furnishings for a leased church suite are not cheap. She apparently has quite a luxurious home and it is not likely that the mortgage, taxes, and insurance are cheap on that either. Even if she doesn't have a car payment, she has to maintain that vehicle, buy gas for it and pay insurance on it. Not to mention clothes, food, internet, electric bills, water bills, telehone bills, cell phone bills, cable TV bills, and so forth and so on. Extremely interesting......just where is all this money coming from?
Joyce Leiphon teaches the "Money Cometh to Me Now" false gospel. The cult like following is very real and she teaches that not only are you to give tithes (10%) of your income as well as offerings (anything above 10%) to the church, but it doesn't stop there. You are expected to give and to give at each of the meetings. If you miss a meeting, you are still required to give. As I explained in my first post, money is number # 1 at Light of the World Church. Since there is no oversight and she has complete control of the money, where that money goes is not open for discussion at "her" church.
The real income comes from the "Money Cometh to Me!" doctrine. This is where she teaches that God will give you money if you give her money first. It's cloaked in Christinese so it sounds like it's good thing to do. At each meeting, I mean even at prayer meetings you were expected to give directly to her. While I was there we were in the $100 club. At each meeting, Monday prayer, Wed meeting, Sunday morning we would, in addtion to tithes and offerings, give Joyce Leiphon $100 personally! Yes we did it because we thought that's what God wanted, but it was also because WE wanted something in return. We would write on the check what we wanted from God. Kinda like using God as an ATM machine. Simple math puts that at least $300 bucks each week from just one family. We weren't alone in the $100 club as there was a few other families doing the same thing. Add it up and it comes to alot money in her hands each week to do as she wills. (What happened to God's will?)
In my first post I talked about some of the other perks Joyce Leiphon enjoys as pastor of Light of the World Church. She even had a personal assistant emailing the church members about what gifts she wanted. I mean does Joyce really need that $1200 Louis Vuitton purse? A personal valet? An offering to cover her lawn maintence? Designer dresses? Joyce Leiphon teaches this and we did all these things and more. If you feel inclined, take a look at her church website, scroll down and see what Leroy Thompson brags about when he pulled $15 grand out of these people when he visited recently It's the Edification sound clip. It's all about the money!
Making money out of the Gospel of Christ is just plain wrong, yet I was deceived for 3 1/2 years doing all this crazy money game thinking I was pleasing God. All it did was make me behind in my bills, forgo gifts to my family, and made Joyce Leiphon some money! I had forgotten what God really wants, and it's not your money. Do not be deceived. Give as you are lead by God, I hope this answers your question.
Sorry, I'm not very knowledgeable about tithing or what this Storehouse is. But what I would like to know is where all this money is coming from that enables Joyce to live so high on the hog? Rent and utilities and furnishings for a leased church suite are not cheap. She apparently has quite a luxurious home and it is not likely that the mortgage, taxes, and insurance are cheap on that either. Even if she doesn't have a car payment, she has to maintain that vehicle, buy gas for it and pay insurance on it. Not to mention clothes, food, internet, electric bills, water bills, telehone bills, cell phone bills, cable TV bills, and so forth and so on. Extremely interesting......just where is all this money coming from?
Joyce Leiphon teaches the "Money Cometh to Me Now" false gospel. The cult like following is very real and she teaches that not only are you to give tithes (10%) of your income as well as offerings (anything above 10%) to the church, but it doesn't stop there. You are expected to give and to give at each of the meetings. If you miss a meeting, you are still required to give. As I explained in my first post, money is number # 1 at Light of the World Church. Since there is no oversight and she has complete control of the money, where that money goes is not open for discussion at "her" church.
The real income comes from the "Money Cometh to Me!" doctrine. This is where she teaches that God will give you money if you give her money first. It's cloaked in Christinese so it sounds like it's good thing to do. At each meeting, I mean even at prayer meetings you were expected to give directly to her. While I was there we were in the $100 club. At each meeting, Monday prayer, Wed meeting, Sunday morning we would, in addtion to tithes and offerings, give Joyce Leiphon $100 personally! Yes we did it because we thought that's what God wanted, but it was also because WE wanted something in return. We would write on the check what we wanted from God. Kinda like using God as an ATM machine. Simple math puts that at least $300 bucks each week from just one family. We weren't alone in the $100 club as there was a few other families doing the same thing. Add it up and it comes to alot money in her hands each week to do as she wills. (What happened to God's will?)
In my first post I talked about some of the other perks Joyce Leiphon enjoys as pastor of Light of the World Church. She even had a personal assistant emailing the church members about what gifts she wanted. I mean does Joyce really need that $1200 Louis Vuitton purse? A personal valet? An offering to cover her lawn maintence? Designer dresses? Joyce Leiphon teaches this and we did all these things and more. If you feel inclined, take a look at her church website, scroll down and see what Leroy Thompson brags about when he pulled $15 grand out of these people when he visited recently It's the Edification sound clip. It's all about the money!
Making money out of the Gospel of Christ is just plain wrong, yet I was deceived for 3 1/2 years doing all this crazy money game thinking I was pleasing God. All it did was make me behind in my bills, forgo gifts to my family, and made Joyce Leiphon some money! I had forgotten what God really wants, and it's not your money. Do not be deceived. Give as you are lead by God, I hope this answers your question.
Thursday, April 12, 2012
Joyce Leiphon on healing, get it or it's your own fault!
I recently spoke with a Christian believer and a brother in Christ. He called me about my blog and wanted to speak with me about a few things. I'll call my friend Tim, as he has given me permission to write about this and to share his experience with Joyce Leiphon.
I remember Tim while my time there, he visited Light of the World Church for a few months. He was breathing with the assistance of an oxygen tank and could tell it was difficult for him to get around.
Joyce Leiphon prides herself as a miracle worker and claims she has healed hundreds of people during the course of her ministry. Money has always been connected to faith at this church, so if you gave more, you should expect more, and receive more. The god of giving only gives if you give to the woman of god. When we had "healing conventions" at Light of the World Church it would always come back to money.
At one meeting, Tim came up for prayer and Joyce went through her antics, (shouting, screaming, shaking, etc) to heal Tim and get him cured of his lung disease. Unfortunately, as praise and worship leader I was setting the atmosphere for her god to show up and produce a miracle. She touched a few people and they did the "falling out" thing. When she got to Tim, nothing happened. Tim has been a Christian for many years and believes in healing but Joyce literally pushed him down in a chair and then commanded him to prove his healing by running around the church! After a few minutes, a very winded Tim wasn't healed and was visibly shaken after having to endure the Joyce Leiphon healing show. Joyce said flippantly to the church, "He just doesn't get it!" and moved on. I never gave it a thought until my recent phone call from Tim.
I continue write about what I personally saw and was a part of while at Light of the World Church. In retrospect, I realize the lack of compassion for the people came there for help. If you didn't get your healing or your money, you just "didn't get it". You didn't believe enough or give enough money. Tim never came back after that day and is currently on a lung transplant list.
I remember Tim while my time there, he visited Light of the World Church for a few months. He was breathing with the assistance of an oxygen tank and could tell it was difficult for him to get around.
Joyce Leiphon prides herself as a miracle worker and claims she has healed hundreds of people during the course of her ministry. Money has always been connected to faith at this church, so if you gave more, you should expect more, and receive more. The god of giving only gives if you give to the woman of god. When we had "healing conventions" at Light of the World Church it would always come back to money.
At one meeting, Tim came up for prayer and Joyce went through her antics, (shouting, screaming, shaking, etc) to heal Tim and get him cured of his lung disease. Unfortunately, as praise and worship leader I was setting the atmosphere for her god to show up and produce a miracle. She touched a few people and they did the "falling out" thing. When she got to Tim, nothing happened. Tim has been a Christian for many years and believes in healing but Joyce literally pushed him down in a chair and then commanded him to prove his healing by running around the church! After a few minutes, a very winded Tim wasn't healed and was visibly shaken after having to endure the Joyce Leiphon healing show. Joyce said flippantly to the church, "He just doesn't get it!" and moved on. I never gave it a thought until my recent phone call from Tim.
I continue write about what I personally saw and was a part of while at Light of the World Church. In retrospect, I realize the lack of compassion for the people came there for help. If you didn't get your healing or your money, you just "didn't get it". You didn't believe enough or give enough money. Tim never came back after that day and is currently on a lung transplant list.
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