I remember the beginning of each year at Light of the World Church, starting at New Years Eve, everyone was required to come to church to pray the new year in. I see nothing wrong with praying as we should continue to pray without ceasing. However, when the members were trying to outdo each other by giving her money as the clock struck midnight and she would wave the cash in the air declaring "Money Cometh to Me Now!" I felt like....so this is the God we serve? The more you gave, the richer you would become in the coming year. Got it and did it for several years. I never got rich at all. There was an unspoken competition who could give her the most money. I didn't pay my bills so I could do this, passed on giving gifts to family, did without meals, all in the belief that by "giving 'till it hurts" was somehow something God wanted me to do. Interestingly, in the last year I stopped believing this lie and gave as the Holy Spirit led, I was blessed and it had nothing to do with shouting and jumping up and down yelling "money cometh to me now"
The first few months of the year was great for Joyce Leiphon as she taught us (brainwashed) us into giving what she said was "first fruit" offerings that went to her directly. So, like obedient sheeple, we gave our first weeks salary, first sales commission, she would wave it in the air then put it in her bank account. Back a few years ago when the government gave everyone a tax credit and everyone received $500-1,000 check, she told us that money belonged to her! Some members actually gave her their tax refund that year. I did my own study about "first fruit offerings" and while there is such a thing mentioned in the old testament, I believe the way it was done at Joyce Leiphon's church was just another money making deal.
I found this very interesting as it is the same gospel preached at Joyce Leiphon's church in Ft Pierce. The exception in the article is that the "Money Cometh" churches are much more in your face with the money message.
Is the “Prosperity Gospel” heresy?
Pastor Jason Baumgardner
13 years ago
Either this pastor is totally nuts, or her members are as nutty as she is for just handing every dime over to her. Something is not adding up here.
ReplyDeleteI am not surprised that Joyce can fool so many people some of her preaching sound right but you you listen long enough you know it is full of lies. Joyce has been a manipulator since she was a very small child. Holding her breath until her eyes rolled back in her head scaring our poor mother half to death. she has always gone to other locations to do her dirty work and if she got found out she would blame someone else. She has never taken responsibility for any of her actions. She ran around on her first two husbands. God forgive sin. He proved that when He sent HIS Only Son to die on the Cross for all men. Now when it comes to teaching Jesus she may have some of it right however when she places you back under the Law she is teaching you that Jesus didn't quite measure up to Gods standards so not you have to finish what Jesus could not do. We have all the blessing IN CHRIST JESUS if in fact you are one of his. I have my doubts that Joyce is truly born again. She will say I will be sick or die for coming against her. But let me tell you what My bible says. I am the righteousness of God through Jesus and no one can curse me as it will come back to them.. MY LORD and Savior has healed me from a deadly form of Cancer which I had for four years. Drs all said I should be dead as they have never know any one to survive this type of cancer left untreated for more then a few months. I had surgery and nothing else as I told the DRS Jesus Healed me over 2000 years ago. Wake up all you people listen to the truth not more lies from the devil and preachers like Joyce who just want you money. I am her sister and she is and has been phoney for years. She is a liar from the pits of hell. She and all her followers are in grave danger of going to hell if the do not repent. I doubt that many are truly saved any way or at least if they have said the words they have not allowed the HOLY SPIRIT to truly clean them up so they can allow Jesus to live his life through them. This hurts all Christians. Those who truly love to LORD and are willing to give their life to serve him yet those who preach like Joyce are damning poor souls to hell and you know the sad part is she really does not care one bit as long as she gets hers. If this hurts anyone feelings oh well no one ever said I would be pleasant when telling the truth about false teachers. Matter of fact Look what Jesus did at the temple He was angry and so am I. I pray god forgives her and she truly meets MY LORD and Savior Jesus Christ
ReplyDeletePlease everyone reading these post especially those who are member of Joyce Leiphon church I beg of you to read the 6 Chapter of 1 Tim. especially verse 5 through10. You read it but the last of verse five says " who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From which withdraw yourself. Verse 6 Now godliness with contentment is great gain. & for we brought nothing into this world and it is certain we can carry nothing out. read it for yourself Verse 9 But those who desire to e rich fall lint temptation and a snare, and into many foolish hand harmful lusts which drown men in destruction and perdition. Run for your lives from this evil teaching that God wants his children to be rich. Most people who become rich will forget all that Jesus has done for them on the Cross. I will not stop speaking the truth on this matter no matter what. Jesus has given us all we need in order to walk in his truth it is call The HOLY SPIRIT. Joyce is taking scripture out of context and using it to keep you from finding the truth yourself. We all have a duty to our God to search for the Truth. according to the Scriptures I read Joyce is a false teacher. Flee from her and her evil works
ReplyDeleteHey everyone involved with Joyce Leiphon it seems funny to me that Jesus tells her follower not to talk to people who come against her. Even Jesus did not command such from his followers. Joyce has to maintain control of her followers in order that they will not see the truth. She is do full of fear that she will be found out. I feel so sorry for her but truly I shouldn't as even Jesus will tell her get away from me I never knew you and also her followers. So all you who follow her I hope you can truly trust you god which is Joyce Leiphon. NOt the God of all the living. When anyone tells you that you can not speak to those who oppose you will that should be a warning. I have several sisters and a niece following this false teacher and they have been told not to speak to me as I am a child of the devil. Joyce is afraid you might find out she is a liar from the pits of hell. Talk to the one that have left her teaching. She has no right to tell you not to. Let tell you all right now. If my dad and Joyce dad had not gone to be with LORD he would be standing in Joyce face commanding her to stop preaching the false doctrine. She knows it is all a lie. She has been taught better but denies the truth.
DeleteAll that has been described in the above posts expresses everything typical of the classic SOCIOPATH. These people are NEVER WRONG; it is always someone else; or they were set up by someone else; pathological lying; they pour on such charm that they can convince anyone to believe anything; telling their followers not to talk to others should clearly send up a red flag (because they are afraid their wrongs and lies will be discovered). What really piques our curiosity is how this woman managed to fool top brass in law enforcement and pass the psychological to be hired on by 2 agencies. The only devil here is the pastor herself; not those she is calling the devil. Its good that people are finally figuring out how she is and exposing it.
ReplyDeleteWhen you learn to manipulate others from a young age as Joyce has it is easy to fool almost everyone for a while. Joyce has always been about money. If you know for a fact she has violated Fl law you have a duty to turn her in. I myself am praying that the law shuts her down. She is damning all that follow her to hell. Even God does not one human to be lost. The devil hide the real truth about Joyce from most who believe her. she has been a liar since birth. You see we have all been born in sin and of sin. IT has only been through the Shed Blood of Jesus Christ that any of us can be saved. Not people through the shed blood of goats and sheep or what ever else. Of course not by the shed Blood of Joyce Ann Leiphon. that is what she wants everyone to think. You know the sad part about all this is the ones following her are afraid to speak against what she is teaching because just in case she is right they won't get their money. Do you not realize that Jesus is all that you need? Search the scriptures for yourself. Read them in context not as Joyce does but determine to find the truth as God wrote it not as Joyce interprets it. The HOLY SPIRIT will lead and guide you if you ask him to. All of my 9 brothers and sister have been exposed to this false doctrine when we first accept the Jesus as our Savior. It did not take some of us to realize this " name it and claim it" was a false doctrine. Well the Money cometh to me now is just a repackaging of the garbage. Greedy Greedy is all I can. You ask how Joyce could fool the top brass in law enforcement. Look how the devil is fooling all that follow her. That explains it all to me. Like I said in other post she is phony and has been most of her life.
ReplyDeleteCare for a few more examples of sociopathic behavior....Glibness and superficial charm, manipulative and conning; never recognize the rights of others and see their behaviors as permissible, see their victims as merely an instrument to be used,grandiose sense of self, entitlement to certain things is their "right", lack of remorse, shame or guilt, does not see others as people, only as opportunities, they let nothing stand in their way to get what they want, incapacity for love, callousness and lack of empathy, contempt for others' feelings of distress, believe they are all powerful, all knowing, entitled to every wish, no concern for their impact on others, not at all concerned about wrecking others' lives and dreams; oblivious to the devastation they cause, blames others for acts they have obviously committed themselves, contemptuous of those who seek to understand them, does not perceive that anything could possibly be wrong with them, secretive,seeks out situations where their behavior will be condoned or admired, incapable of real human attachment to another, extreme narcissism, etc, etc etc Well?
ReplyDeleteI would just like to tell everyone that the only way to God the Father of all the Living is through the Cross of Jesus Christ. There is no other way. As far a money goes find out for sure about what took place on the Cross when Jesus said " it is finished". Many years ago Joyce and other member of our family received teaching on who you are in Christ. This teacher was Malcolm Smith. Joyce uses this teaching almost word for word to teach other who they are in Christ. However, she has lost her way. IF she is teaching the truth of who she is in Christ then she would not be putting her followers back under the Law of sin and death. She would not be preaching the Gospel of Greed. When I realize that Jesus was real my life changed 100%. I have not seen a change in Joyce. I listen to a lot of different preachers however the best one I have heard on the teaching of what Jesus did on the Cross comes from a repented Jimmy Swaggart. so for any one not knowing or only think they know what happened at the cross I would ask them to find jsm.org and learn from someone who had to learn the hard way. It seems Joyce will not take correction. so You will have to find the truth on your own. I did. I have spent hours alone with my LORD and Savior asking HIM to reveal himself to me. So that I can walk in the light as he is in the light. When you are under the law you can not live the life Jesus gave us. I have life and so much of it that I do not need to be a millionaire in order for others to know that I love Jesus. We are to be good stewards of all that we have. Those who are given much are expected to give much. no one is to give in such a way that the preacher or anyone they give to has more then enough and you go with out food or paying you bills there should be no lack in anyone living for our God and savior Jesus Christ. Joyce preaches the law of tithing and offerings. Well I say if this is what you want to do so be it. But you will also have to obey every part of the law or else you will be condemn. this is the word of God not mind. You will have to offer sin offering you will have to go to Jerusalem. You have to use the same alter they used in the Old Testament. If you do not believe me read it I think it is in Leviticus. I guess I should apologize for being so blunt but some one needs to speak the truth to set these captives free from sin and death. With out the cross of Christ there is no hope for life after death. I do not care how much money you have or how much you give.
ReplyDeleteJoyce has based her life on the all mighty dollar , my father was married to her for 13+ years . One day she came home from a "revival" of some sorts and a woman there gave her money. She said the woman told her god wanted her to give her the money. You could see $$$ signs in Joyce's eyes. I think this was her "trigger" She saw an opportunity to be "rich" by using god. She used to sit in front of the TV and pray for money with Benny Hinn.
ReplyDeleteSince I was a small child I knew Joyce was in my opinion Abnormal--not because she was my step-mom because she was manipulative, and as best I can describe a sociopath. She tortured my poor grandparents by verbally attacking them if she felt they spent more $$$ on my sister and I, than her children ( which were my grandparents step granchildren) my grandma vowed to that she would never succumb Joyce's demand that my grandparents spent equal amounts of money on her children as she did my sister and I. I didn't understand when I was very young why Joyce would go through my bags when I came to visit my dad and grandparents in Florida. She would say oh that's a pretty new bathing suit did your GrANDMA buy that for you? Onlt so that she could demand an explanation as to why one wasn't purchased for her daughter too?? My point is everything everyone is saying about her is TRUE and it sounds like she is using gods word to put money in her pocket. I feel terrible for the people who have fallen into her evil path. She will have her day of judgement, she will have to answer to God, and SHE WILL reap what she sows. I feel like she is committing the worst sin there is, and her DAY with the lord Jesus Christ will come. She cannot fool him
I do remember you and you sister. Your Dad flew us all three to visit once them at Christmas one year as you where to young to fly alone.You may remember I am aunt Jan. I can tell you that everything that this child said is true> Joyce would rant about how much was spent on the two of you and her daughter didn't get the same. I do have to ask. What about her son. He was treated like the stepchild from the devil most of the time by his own mother.. Here is my email address please email me I have many questions for you. jfcecil2009@gmail.com
DeletePraise the Lord that others are coming out and revealing how evil this woman truly is. There is definitely a screw loose somewhere; in fact, quite a few. And thank you Jesus that you have taken these grandparents into your loving presence where they no longer have to endure the abuse of this sociopath.
ReplyDeletejust wanted to say to all the people that are following Joyce. Jesus answered every question that was asked of him with the exception of when he was about to die for all our sins. If you are told not to answer anyone questions if they do not follow Joyce's teaching what does that tell you about the teaching. Jesus was never afraid to tell it like it is. Joyce is hiding behind not wanting to loose her anointing. Get real God does whatever he chooses with HIS anointed. He can even make a ass talk. So Joyce me be that who know for sure unless you know what the word of God truly says about false teachers. Moses had deal with the same kind of spirit that Joyce is teaching to all you people wake up before it is to late. I am sure Jim Jones follower did not believe he would murder them but he did. Joyce is murdering all you followers with all her lies cheating you out your what is yours through the Shed Blood of Jesus Christ am praying for you all
ReplyDeleteAmen, my grandparents were wonderful caring and loving people who did not deserve the redicule they were forced to endure by Joyce. She constantly created controversy in our family, and it only involved money... The only concern she had was money. She did not acknowledge that my grandparents treated her children very well, it all came down to a $ for $ comparison. Not to mention my grandparents bless their hearts did try to compensate financially for my sister and I because Joyce would spend all of my dads income and their were many months my mother would struggle as a single mother to raise my sister and I. Joyce never took into consideration or even cared that my grabdparents purchased clothes for 2 little girls who NEEDED them, not with the intention of being unfair. I can honestly say as an adult that if it weren't for my grandparents buying me shoes, and clothes as a child I would have done without a lot. There were many times she had me fooled me as she was very convincing. My dad is now an amputee due to severe diabetes struggling to pay bills, and nearly died after being a coma for 30 days, he would be in a lot better place financially if he had never met Joyce. She drained him for all that she could and left him with Nothing. I personally witnessed her pray for money time after time, it was just plain sickening.
ReplyDeletelooks like I have another coming to Fl who more then likely sit under Joyce's teaching at least for a while before Joyce calls her a child of the devil. Like she did Stephanie. Joyce will not be able to control the one coming down either. Of course I want you all to know that this daughter will also bad mouth me since I will not put up with drugs and alcohol in my house. All we can do is pray that the LORD God Almighty will lead Joyce followers out from her before it is to late. This is my daily prayer. I am so sorry you and your family was treated so badly by Joyce.
ReplyDeleteJust to offer another example of Joyce's sociopathic behavior......many years ago a relative of hers got into some kind of trouble involving drugs, the police had pictures of the incident, but Joyce still adamantly denied that it could possibly have been this little darling, claiming that someone had set her up. Blaming someome else is classic of a sociopath.
ReplyDeleteWhy in the world would someone want to come and live with Joyce, the way she treats people. You can bet she will also end up being called a child of the devil and tossed out just like the other one.
ReplyDeleteI remember Joyce raking Margaret over the coals about something (one time of many) and sending her to the ER with severe chest pain. In addition, she stood over Mr. Walton as he lay dying in the hospital of a stroke and told him what a horrible sinner he was and that he was going to hell ! Yup, that's Joyce, the "good Christian"
ReplyDeleteWell I know the one coming to fl she will not stay as she has been there before Joyce has always been holyier then thou. Noting I hear surprises me with this want to be "JIm Jones". this one well I am not sure where she is but she does no a phoney when she hears one preaching so yes Joyce will also call her a child of the devil. I am praying everyone wake up. I do not understand how any one reading the Word of God could fall for anyone of what she is preaching.
ReplyDeletejust talked to someone Joyce called to complain about what is being said on this site. You if you are one of her followers just tell her all she has to do is talk to me and show my the error of my way. But she knows she is wrong and she can't show me as I have already shown her the truth and she gets further and further from the truth the longer she preaches. so here is my phone number if you want to talk. 502-510-2713
ReplyDeleteHello JF Cecil, God Bless You my sister in Christ. YOU NEED TO STOP BEATING YOURSELF UP. You have tried to show Joyce the right way; she doesn't want to see it. Let's face it.....JOYCE WILL ALWAYS BE RIGHT ABOUT EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE ELSE WILL ALWAYS BE WRONG and she's not going to change, so stop being so hard on yourself. We can certainly continue to pray for her, but one can't be forced to change their ways. I understand your concerns, but you can only do so much. I assume your parents are still living; if so tell them I feel badly for them and to let them know they are not at fault in any way for Joyce's behavior; and that they are in my thoughts and prayers. They must be tormented and anguished to see their kind of behavior in their child. Keep this in mind, IF Joyce is actually breaking the law for example running a ponzi scheme or stealing from her followers,it will eventually all come crashing down and the long arm of the law will catch up with her. And if she is not breaking the law and it's just a case where her followers are willingly giving her all this money, then so be it; let them suffer the consequences when they start losing them homes and everything else. If Joyce can live with her conscience about taking all this money from her churh people, that's ok; let her enjoy it immensely in this world, because one day she will stand in God's Court. So, JF Cecil, my sister in Christ, PLEASE STOP BEATING YOURSELF UP and put it in God's Hands.
ReplyDeletewell I didn't realize I was beating myself up over What Joyce is teaching. Our Dad graduated to be with the LORD 22 years ago. Joyce flew in for the funeral but stayed only for the viewing. She did not stay for the funeral.Our Dear mother well she is 89 years old and her memory isn't all that good so she forgets from minute what she hears and you I Praise God for that. I also thank God that my Dad has gone to be with the Lord because what Joyce is doing well He would have had a hard time containing himself. God Used him greatly before he graduated. He didn't want money, power or wealth as the world see it. He just wanted everyone the LORD sent him to know Jesus Christ as their LORD and Savior. I truly only want the truth to be know about what is being taught,. It is our Christian duty to love on another and if you see someone in error you should point them to the correct way. That is true love. That is all I am now trying to do. She will not listen I am praying those following her will open their blind eyes and deaf ears and hear the truth of the Word of God. Instead of just reading about the rich men in the bible why don't her followers read about what happens to them. Just like being a Catholic and the priest tell you that you don't need to read the bible because you can't understand it. Only the men of God can tell you what the bible means to you today. I have a hard time understanding how anyone can buy into this Gospel of Greed and being Little gods. That is not true. We are if we truly ask Jesus to be lord of our life adopted sons and daughters of God. Now look at all the rich men of the old Covenant. Truly study their life. Was it an easy life. I would say no it was't. No running water, No in door toilet, No electric lights. No shopping centers. Golly even Abraham must have had to work from sun up to sundown on his farm in order to have the wealth he had. Of course you have to fight constantly with your neighbors then you got to take all their property. What a life of enjoyment. Always worried about who was going to come steal their stuff. Look at what wealth did to David. He murdered and committed adultery. Well that is enough at this time. I just want the all poor followers of Joyce to stop following her and find Jesus Christ the true Savior of the World
ReplyDeleteThe Power of the Spoken Word: Biblical or occult If you want to know if you are following the True word of God and not the occult go to jsm.org the go to Frances Swaggart and click on articles. You will find all you need to regain your freedom that Jesus Christ gave to all believers in HIM with the completed work of his death on the Cross over 2000 years anything other the the Cross of Christ is another gospel not Christ.
ReplyDeleteI remember many years ago when I first got saved I was told to go home close myself off from everything and think only of one thought getting the manifestation of the Holy Spirit. I did this and Praise God for His protection I felt this thing coming up my body starting at my feet. I felt this tingling sensation. When it got to my knees I knew something wasn't right. I rebuke this in the Name Of Jesus and asked for the Blood of Jesus to cleanse me from this ungodly anointing. Praise God HE IS the PROTECTOR of His Children. what ever spirit it was left quicker then it had started to come on me. This is why the Bible tells us to test the spirits to know whether it is from God or not. 1 John 4:1 Read it you may get a surprise about your false prophet
ReplyDeleteThe Florida Attorney General's office is where anyone wishing to have this pastor investigated can file a formal complaint. You can bring up a complaint form using this link. Anyone bilking good citizens out of their hard earned money in the name of God needs to be confronted and prosecuted.
ReplyDeletehttp://myfloridalegal.com/pages.nsf/Main/0BABAE79CD95E3F485256CC9006BFC82
Today we find the poor desiring to be rich and the rich often look upon themselves as blessed and using their abundance as proof of their spiritual condition. They have trained themselves in covetousness ignoring Mark 4:19: “the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the desires of other things entering in choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful.” One can have an abundance of material blessings and still be bankrupt in their spirituality. We have Jesus saying this about the church of Laodicea. We have too many examples of spiritual giants who have followed this path of abundance to their own demise, Solomon for one. Jesus spoke about money probably more than any other subject, but often with warnings and rebukes, not as a blessing promised for all who follow Him. From today's prosperity preaching one would never know Jesus said to “Take heed and beware of covetousness, for one's life does not consist in the abundance of the things he possesses” (Luke 12:15-2). We are cautioned through the whole body of Scripture to be careful of coveting and pursuing riches. Solomon who had more money than most of us will ever see wrote in Proverbs 28:20-23: “A faithful man will abound with blessings, but he who hastens to be rich will not go unpunished. To show partiality is not good, because for a piece of bread a man will transgress. A man with an evil eye hastens after riches, and does not consider that poverty will come upon him. He who rebukes a man will find more favor afterward than he who flatters with the tongue.” Solomon gave both sides of this issue, being poor and being rich. A faithful man is one who serves the Lord no matter what he has, much or little. In other words, we are to be content no matter what we have. We can mistakenly focus our pursuit on only the blessings without realizing that we have abandoned a spiritual life and moved ourselves into a position of severe chastening. Romans 8:32 “He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? We already have promised what we need according to the love and provision found in Christ Jesus.
ReplyDeleteI'm very sorry, jf cecil. Perhaps my choice of words "beating yourself up" was not a good choice. I can tell that you are a truly good person who is trying to do what is right, and I was just hoping you weren't making yourself sick over all this craziness. Like I've said before and will say again, IF Joyce IS IN FACT bilking people out of their hard earned money in an illegal manner, it will catch up with her.
ReplyDeleteHope I didn't make you feel bad, I am crying out to Our God to stop this gospel of Greed before more of our loved ones are caught up in this. I do know for a fact several are not secure in who they are in Christ when they fell for this garbage. I am not sick like I would be if I didn't know the truth. I know if she repents she will be saved if she hasn't cross the line. I just do not want anyone to loose their souls because of this false teaching. My God will deliver them all for this evil if they truly are wanting the things of God. I just know Joyce and she has always wanted the green stuff. I wonder if any of the members of Light of the World Church ever asked Joyce what she did with the money she takes in. Do they ever get to see the books. Boy that is the first thing I would ask before joining a church. I want to see who gets most of the money the preacher of the poor in the community. I have said before all I can do is pray and that is what I am doing. she and my sisters will not listen but you know one day they will have to and I am praying it is not going to be to late for them.
ReplyDeleteJust wanted to say that if you are following Joyce and her money cometh to me now doctrine how does she expect you to bring more people into the flock if you are not allowed to speak to anyone who does not believe in this teaching? My bible say Jesus finished it at the cross. He now sits at the right hand of the Father (who sent Him) as our mediator. Since Jesus sits with Our Father why do you still need to go back to the law to get God our Father to give you his blessing that He promised Abraham, When He ( Our Father) sent Jesus to be that blessing. I can't understand how anyone could turn from the LOVE of God to this evil doctrine filled with fear. You see my God of LOVE say true love cast out ALL fear. Not some but all. From what I understand Joyce is teaching more about the devil then what Jesus did for you on the Cross over 2000 years ago. God is not a respecter of persons your Pastor does not deserve to live better off the hog then you do. As a matter of fact she should get a real job just like Paul and the other apostles. We are not longer under the law of tithing. Giving yes but not tithing.. Before Jesus died yes they were still under the law and Yes Jesus paid his tithes. However He fulfilled this with his blood. He is the last High priest. Am I saying we do not need to support our local church of course not. But God will tell you how much you should give and only if the church is teaching the truth. How do you know what is truth. Simple ask God he will tell you all truth it is written in His word called the Bible. Never take another man's word but only Gods and HE has Written it for us all to see. Not just certain ones. None of the ones I have contacted that go to Joyce"s church and I do mean Joyce"s church can talk to me out of fear they will loose their money. YOU know God can not bless anyone who is willfully sinning. God well let put it this way My God the Father of all the Living is not in Light of the World church teaching of money cometh. If and when you can find the words Money cometh to me now in the bible I will listen to what you are saying. You see I have been looking for years and as of today I have not found them. I will not go back to the law to get bless by the God of all the living as I have it all IN CHRIST JESUS. Amen
ReplyDeleteHi, Ms Cecil, I was just reading your last post, and wonder if you could clarify something for me to make sure I understand correctly. You said that of those you had contacted in Joyce's church, none can talk to you out of fear they will lose their money. Do these folks truly believe they are going to come into money, or is it a situation where they are actually put in fear that something dreadful will happen to them if they do talk? Thank you.
ReplyDeleteWell I think it is both. If they talk to someone that doesn't believe in this Doctrine they could have doubt that their money is coming. the with the " touch thou not my anointed" well they are afraid they will get sick or worse. I truly do not know for sure which one they are more concerned about. Only God knows these peoples heart. I honestly believe she keeps most of these gullible people out of fear regardless if it will be loss of money or sickness or death. God is the only one with the power of life or death. You See When Jesus died on the cross that took care of the old covenant law and give us a new covenant. Which also means the Touch not my anointed is no longer valid. Jesus is and was the Last Prophet, Redeemer, Blessing of Abraham, and that Jesus sent back to HOLY SPIRIT to lead and guide us who are called by His name to all truth. there is no longer a need for a Prophet to tell us to look this way or that way. I depend on the Shed Blood of my Savior Jesus Christ to defend me from the kinds of evil. Even from false Preachers. I hope I have answered you question if not tell me I will try to do better. Joyce has no power it is all talk
ReplyDeleteYes these folks believe they are going to come into money. The ones I have tried to talk to are related to me and to Joyce. Do I think these are afraid they will get sick or die if the come against Joyce. Well that is a hard one for me since I do know my sisters and like Joyce I know they are greedy. Now the other church members I could not tell you for sure. I would be willing to say that it is some of both. Joyce has no power. Sounds like a great speaker and some of what she says is truth. You See Jesus Took care of everything at the cross. We no longer have to fear "touch not my anointed". We are no longer under the law and there is no longer need for a prophet to tell us how to live, or repent. Jesus did it all at the cross. He sent the HOLY SPIRIT to dwell in us who believe in HIM. No need for another prophet or high priest. There is no fear in Christ Jesus. anyone preaching God will get you if you do this or that. Sorry run. Run as fast as you can. Our God through Jesus Christ vented all his wrath on to Jesus there is no more punishment for sin. That is if you have repented and believe Jesus Christ is the Son of God and died and was raised and sits at the right hand of the Father. We all can get off the right track but the HOLY SPIRIT will lead us to find our way back if we will listen to those the LORD sends. I will add this as far as Joyce goes. She does preach according to what I understand about you getting to know who you are in Christ. However, this is to only convince her followers to give her money because she is teaching you how to obtain the Blessing of the LORD. Money is all this preaching is about. My understanding of her preaching is this. If you know who you are in Christ then you have to right to command all the money of the world to come into your hands. Name it and claim it. When she teaches this she is teaching another gospel and another Jesus. Yes out fear of loosing money and possibly your life she is teaching fear. Fear is not part of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I hope this has answered you question.
ReplyDeleteOh wow....I didn't know that Joyce also had sisters who were members of her church. Are they also victims being bilked out of their money in the name of God?
ReplyDeleteyes one lives in Ky. sends her money along with her two son. Then one sister is living in Fla along with her daughter and granddaughter. I am praying daily for the Holy Spirit to do what I know only he can do. He can deliver them all from this doctrine from the devil.
DeleteI am not sure how much longer I will be commenting on this site. I only want to do what I know the LORD is putting on my heart. All I know for sure is that the teaching of Joyce Liephon and the Light of the World church is a false teaching,. I do not want to harm anyone that is not my intention. However, I know that I know this teacher and her follower are on very dangerous ground if they do not turn from the evil and wicked ways . You see my bible tells me if I could do all the things Joyce Liephon is telling her followers do and they had the power to command anything from anyone there would never have been a need for Jesus. I praise my God that He love me enough to send HIs only son to pay the debt that I owed and could not pay. Jesus Died on the cross of Calvary so I could have life and have it more abundantly. I am blessed to have the Gospel of Jesus Christ in my heart to know I can not do anything to add to what Christ has done at the Cross. I have it all. Am I filthy rich like Joyce preaches you can be. NO. Do I have fine clothes and a mansion to live in NO. I do have clothes and I do have a home. The reason I have these this is because the Word of God in Matthew 6:33 says Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and HIS Righteousness and he will add all things to you. Read the whole chapter. Now were can I find that I am the total righteousness of God. if that was so why would I be told in his word to seek HIS Righteousness. It will be the will of God for any of her follower to come out from her false teaching. Pray that is what I am doing as I do not want my sisters and niece to parish thinking they are serving the one true God when in fact they are doing the devils dirty work. I will praying and asking the LORD what he would have me write if I write any more. I am asking everyone who knows the truth about this doctrine she is teaching to pray and ask God to deliver them from the clutches of the devil.
ReplyDeleteI, and probably hundreds, if not thousands, of people in this community and beyond absolutely detest this woman for the horrible ways she has treated so many people; but you know what, God has spoken to me and told me to pray for her and her followers to be delivered from this false teaching and from the clutches of the devil. Maybe as a result she will become an honest, nicer, better, kinder person who will treat others with respect instead of in the way she has treated people in the past. Help me, Lord Jesus, to do this.
ReplyDeleteI will always say what I know to be the truth on this site or any other site I decide to post. I love Jesus Christ because he First love me. His Father the God of all the Living has called me one of His Children. Not by anything I have done but in spite of all the sins I have committed. I feel as Paul felt. though I have not killed any Christian as he did I felt at one time I was the worst of the worst. Praise God he has redeemed me By the Shed Blood of His ONLY son Jesus Christ when Jesus came in human form in an earthly body being the SEED of The most HIGH God. The Promise that God made to Abraham. I have life and life more abundantly in Christ Jesus who set me free from ALL bondage. Which the law of Moses could not do. The law of Moses was to show us all what sin truly is. Praise God I am REDEEMED BY THE BLOOD OF THE LAMB. Jesus is the truth the life and the way. There is no other way. Anything that takes us away from the fact that we could not save ourselves but it is only through the Shed Blood of Jesus can anyone be saved that we can cry Abba Father. Mark 14:36 Rom 8:15 Gal 4:6. It has nothing to what we do or cannot do it is all about what Jesus did for all men at the Cross on Calvary. Praise God I am free from the works of my flesh and the works of the devil. I have it all in Christ Jesus who sit at the right hand of God. My Father gives me all things in Jesus at HIS Good pleasure. I am content with the life I now live as I do allow the LORD Jesus to live His life through me. Do I get in the flesh, yes, and as long as I am on this earth I will constantly be battling my flesh. Keeping it in submission to the Cross of Christ. My flesh is at war with my spirit Which is Born again of the Spirit of God .
ReplyDeleteYou know If I knew the LORD had called me to Preach HIS word that is what I would do. His word not mine. You see if you are truly called to Preach the Word of God In my opinion I would be afraid to preach what some of these so called preacher are preaching. The Good News of the Gospel is the fact that Jesus Christ did all that needed to be done to give all men the opportunity to accept what he did at the cross for the remission of sin and to have life more abundantly in HIM. Jesus did not die on the Cross so we could command money cometh to me now. But for us to learn who we are in Him and have heaven here on earth with HIM. Our treasure are to be in heaven not in this world. Unless you only want money and wealth in this world. Do not get me wrong. there is nothing wrong with becoming wealthy if it is used properly. Look at the founder of JC penny. He gave more then he kept to further the Gospel of Jesus Christ. What has happened to his to fortune since he graduated to be with the LORD. there have been many Godly men and women of God who had wealth but they never left sight of the giver which was and is Jesus Christ. If you want to drive a Rolls Royce and own a mansion get a job that pay well. Preacher do not lie to the sheep and tell them they are to support you in a manner above which they themselves cannot live. You do not deserve to live better then your followers. Get a real Job just like the Apostles did. They took nothing from the people the preached the good news to. yes I do believe in giving to the local church as the LORD puts on your heart. But I think it is a sin for preacher to tell the sheep they should do without so the preacher can take trips to France or Hawaii or where ever they want to go. Next time the preacher asked for money to go to them instead of the church keep your money. take that money and take your family out to dinner or lunch. Or buy yourself a new bible or whatever you have need of. Stop the money flow see how fast this preacher gets a real job
ReplyDeleteI just wonder if many of the people going to Light of the World Church ever read the bible on their own Or are they told what to read and how to interpret what they read. I am asking this question as I was just reading the 2 chapter of Colossians 2:8Which say Beware.( look out watch carefully)lest any one cheat you through
ReplyDeletephilosophy and empty deceit according to the tradition of men according to the basic principles of the world and not of Christ. I do not like to take just one verse from scripture but this time I. This verse is telling all people who call themselves Christian they need to be very careful what the accept as gospel according to the Word of God. Paul warns us all through his letters of the false teachers and doctrine of the last day. I do believe we are in the last days. I do not want any of my loved one lost through this false teaching. Nor do I want anyone deceived by this preacher who is my sister. I love her and I do not want her to be lost either. I am asking anyone who can talk to these people to please start reading the bible and asking according to Eph. 5-18 pray these prayers putting you name in the place of you or yours. I have done this for years. I am not saying I am so spiritual that I never make a mistake. We all do but my LORD and God corrects me when I am wrong and I thank HIM when he does. God corrects those that are his. Praise God.
I would like to know if any of you are familiar with the "soaking" meeting or the seeker movement in the church. I have been looking into this also and it appears this teaching has been around for many years. If you know about this please if you do not want to publish any information on this site please email me at jfcecil2009@gmail.com. Thank you for any information you can give me.
ReplyDeleteSorry, I have no idea what this soaking meeting or seeker movement in the church is; never heard the term before.
ReplyDeleteWell what little I have been able to find out about this and I haven't look to much on the subject. It sounds like it is the truth of God like the money cometh doctrine but it leads you off to be open to demonic activity . That is what I understand at this point on my research. Thank you for commenting
ReplyDeleteI was just thinking about some of the stuff I am seeing and hearing Joyce teaching. I just want to let anyone who reads these post and especially if you are going to her church to remember this. I am her sister. I have been telling Joyce for years she is preaching wrong. I have told her she it robbing the people of God. I know she say that god has said to touch not my anointed well those days are over. There are not prophet today to tell the future. I have told her she is not anointed she lives in a fairy tale world. She wanted to be nun when she was a little girl.That went out the window when she grew a little older. I am again going to say. Perfect love cast out all fear. She must be so afraid she is not going to get all her worldly fortune if she will not talk to me or allow anyone who follows her teaching to talk to those who do not believe what she is preaching. She is being deceived and is deceiving all that follow her. I am praying that she come to know the real Jesus Christ. If she tells anyone that I got cancer because I came against her well let me tell all of you. I had cancer long before she started her church and long before she started preaching money cometh to me now. It tells me a lot about a person no matter who they are that will take credit for what the devil or the sin nature of man does to someone. I had cancer and never gave it thought that I had anything to worry about. I had a type that was deadly. This cancer gave me the chance to tell everyone this cancer was just a thing and Jesus healed me 2000years ago. So if any of you are afraid to leave her church because she will but curse on you well. Let tell you this. She can't . The bible says anyone who adds to or takes away from the written word of God is accursed. I have written her a letter and told her to repent as she was leading many soul away from Jesus she would be responsible for the loss of their salvation. I do not want anyone to be lost. This is where she leading her sheep. I follow only Jesus. If what the preacher says does not line up with the word of God in context of the whole book or chapter reject it. I have had to speak out against false teaching many many times. I have been shunned by many so called preachers. Most of them are getting rich off the backs of the people. Not caring if they live or die. I will continue to tell the truth no matter what. I will give up my life to tell the truth of the Word of God. You see I am free in Jesus and I have everything I have need of. Please read every scripture you can find where Jesus talks about being wealthy according to the world. You be wealthy but there will be a lot expected of you. Money and gain of this world will not do you any good in the next life. Be content with what you have and God will give you more. All I want is more of HIM evidence in my life. And less of me.
ReplyDeleteAnother thing that Joyce likes to intimidate people with is that she will tell them that they will go to Hell if they do this or do that, or don't do this or don't do that, or if they do not agree 100% with her or see eye to eye with her on everything. Of course, she is always right and everyone else is always wrong; that's the nature of a sociopath.
ReplyDeleteI can agree with this as several years ago she came to ky for Thanksgiving. We were having a meeting at my daughters house concerning our mother. Our mother at that time need surgery. Joyce come off with some garbage placing all faith in mothers had if she had enough. Well Our older brother stopped Joyce and told her it had nothing to do with mothers faith but the faith of Jesus. Well Joyce started off with some off the wall crap. I said uhmp and turn my head. Well you would have thought I had slap her face. She said " Jan How dare you disrespect me". I flat out told her I did owe her any respect as she was not my God and never would. I have to explain to you what she was trying to do. Just like now trying to put our mother under the law. Joyce is the reason our mother is not living in her own home. IF any of you can recall our mother has been to her church a few times. The last time she came to visit FL Joyce wanted our mother to sell her house in Ky and buy her and my other sister a house there in Fl. When our mother said no Joyce packed her up and sent her back to KY of course saying mother wanted to come home. She has been a manipulator for many years. Our mother just turned 89 years young. I am so glad that our Dad has gone on to be with the LORD that he wasn't alive to hear his daughter pervert the Gospel of OUr LORD
ReplyDeleteI feel so badly for you, older sister. It sounds like you and the rest of your family have taken so much abuse and garbage from Joyce as have so many others over the years. Don't know what makes her think she is so special and high and mighty and so much better than everyone else and has to exercise such power and control over everyone. Apparently she has no respect for anyone. There is obviously an EXTREMELY SERIOUS PROBLEM somewhere. God Bless your dear, dear mother - oh my 89 years old. I am sure she is a wonderful, fine woman who loves the Lord with all her heart. One day she will depart from this earth and join your dad and our Glorious Lord in Heaven.
ReplyDeleteOur Mother loves the LORD and that is all I will say at this time about our mother. Joyce like all humans because of the sin of Adam wants to be God. It is in my opinion the PRIDE OF LIFE. Which causes all to want what we want when we want it. I love Joyce and my other brothers and sisters, However, this will not stop me from telling the truth as the LORD shows me. Do I think I am always on the right track? No I don't but I do go to my God and Savior to show me the error of my way. If you can not take correction from a human being that you can see and touch how can you take correction from a God you cannot see or touch. I do not go by the feeling I get on my body. All the goose bumps cannot compare to the truth of Gods word that I know that I know He loves me and gave His only son to die for me as I could not save myself from the law of sin and death. Do I sin of course I do if I do not confront my self That I am not God. If you have truly learned who you are in Christ Jesus you can and will over come sin. We will none of us will be perfect until Jesus comes back for his church. then and only then will I be perfected in HIM. I do not believe Joyce has a clue about our salvation we received at the cross of Jesus. I pray daily for her all who follow her. Do I think I know it all. the answer is no. but I do depend on the Word of God to correct me when I am wrong. Do I like to be corrected. No but I will accept the truth of Gods word. All the answers are in his word. We all think we are God until we give our life to the God of all the living in Christ Jesus.
ReplyDeleteI was just sitting here thinking about this money cometh to me now doctrine. I wonder if she has called her prophet to help her put a curse on me for coming against her. If it wasn't so pitiful it truly would be funny. You see my God is a Blesser. HE doesn't curse his children. Now read the old covenant learn what happened when Gods people worship idols instead of him, It truly wasn't a pretty sight. I am covered by the Blood of the Lamb. NO weapon form against me shall prosper. So you see none of us have anything to fear from false teacher such as Joyce Leiphon and Leroy Thompson.
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ReplyDeleteIn the Old Testament they did not prophesy under Jesus’ name, but Yahweh’s name. In the New Testament it was Jesus' (Yeshua- Iesous) This clearly shows we are under a new covenant and we deal with false prophets differently, we don't stone them to have them depart from the assembly. However we do not allow them to flourish within the assembly hoping they will get better at their prophesying. There is no such thing as a prophet learning to prophesy. Today they get 30%, 70% right, hoping to improve it to 100%. Only false prophets practice to be perfect. Yet some defend this position saying the Church is not ready. The Church has always been ready for the perfection of Gods gifts. Prophets prophesy over others and when it doesn't come to pass its blamed on the recipient for not having enough faith for it to happen. Prophesy is not from the will of man but from God. When God gave the prophecies concerning Israel as a nation, it certainly was not dependent upon their faith. There were prophecies that were conditional to avert Gods intent. Like Jonahs they were base on the reaction of the people. God's purposed to destroy them but mixed with judgment he will have mercy on some of his pronouncements. Jeremiah 18:7-10: “The instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it; IF THAT NATION, AGAINST WHOM I HAVE PRONOUNCED TURNS FROM ITS EVIL, I WILL RELENT OF THE DISASTER THAT I THOUGHT TO BRING UPON IT. And the instant I speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plan it; if it does evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will relent concerning the good, with which I said I would benefit It.” Jonah 3:9-10 the king said, “Who can tell if God will turn and relent and turn from his fierce anger, so that we may not perish. “Then God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way and God relented from the disaster.” Jonah was angry because he knew God was gracious and merciful and did not want to see these people spared.
Deut 13:1-10 tells us about prophets or those with dreams who have a sign or a wonder come to pass. Even if they get their prophecies right but have you follow another God (such as misrepresenting him). We are being tested to see if we love the Lord fully and obey his voice (his word) alone. If they represent God as a force or power that we can control or distort his nature as they do today, even if the miraculous happens we are not to heed them.
People prophesy right because their doctrine is right. Why would God speak to someone about the future when they can’t understand the scripture on what he has already spoken? Their predictions don’t come true because their teaching is wrong. So false teachers when they prophesy will become false prophets. This is exactly What the Apostle Peter states. Both were among the early Church, both are with us today.
As I sit here this morning thinking about how my life has changed since becoming to truly know Jesus and what he did for me on the cross over 2000 years ago. I realize that He has protected me from the evil preachers all my saved life. Have I always lived as though I trusted God. No I cannot say I have. I will say that when I first got save and I heard the Faith in Faith name it an claim it doctrine. Boy I jumped on that. I had three little girls, divorces and no job. I saw this beautiful house that was for sale. I was told that if I marched around this house 7 times that house would be mine. I marched 7 times I still do not have that house. I realize shortly after that just because the LORD told Joshua to have the people to march are a city does not mean we are to make a doctrine out of it. I learned to put my faith and Trust in the LORD Jesus Christ. I through out the name and claim it doctrine. This doctrine has been renamed so many times I really do not no all of what they are called but I will tell you money cometh is one of them. It is a simple message our Gospel Jesus did it all at the Cross. Man cannot stand not to be a big part of what ever God is doing so they add law and regulations onto the backs of the people they are saying they will teach the truth. Any so preacher who knowing breaks the law of the land so they can have undeclared money,. Well I will say run run run. If you know a preacher who has broken the law I do not care who it is even if it is my sister Joyce Leiphon they should be turned in to law enforcement. it truly saddens me to know that my sister fell for the name it an claim it 30 year ago and has never grown from that point. I truly cannot understand how anyone can remain the same all their life after truly knowing Jesus Christ and what he did for all men at the Cross. He set us free from the law of sin and death. why would anyone listen to anyone who would place them back under the law after being made free. You can not blame it all on the devil as he only has a limited role in a Christians life. Remember he was defeated by the Shed Blood of Jesus Christ at the Cross of Calvary. I hope you who are reading this post or blog what ever it is call do not get offended but I will have say if you do please take it to the Father in Jesus Name he will either change your mind or he will change my mind. I only want the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
ReplyDeleteAny pastor who would demand that her flock turn over their tax credit check or income tax return for the year to her and wave it in the air and then put it in her bank account; well, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that anyone who would do something like this is obviously nine short of a dozen. And any of her church members who would be FOOLISH enough to bend to such demands is farther out in the ozone layer than she is.
ReplyDeleteMatthew the 15th chapter tells what the problems is the 14th verse says to leave them alone they are the blind leading the blind. I would hope everyone would read the whole chapter. as defilement comes from within. SO I have to say my sister Joyce Leiphon is a Blind christian leading many others who are blind. Keep Praying that God will open their blind eyes and their deaf ears. Matter of fact there truly are spiritually dead. So prayers will be the only think that can help these poor souls. I like to say they are half a deck short of a half a deck. Keep praying you because but for the Grace of God their go I.
ReplyDeleteOops I made a mistake my sister Joyce Leiphon can not be a real christian and preach another Jesus as she is doing. I am truly shocked that she could teach so much truth then mix all the lies and another Jesus in with it.. and since I am coming against what she is preaching I want everyone who is reading these post to know that Joyce Leiphon has not caused the tornado's in southern In. and central Ky. We are all fine although there has been some loss of life in Southern In. God bless you all
ReplyDeleteGod Bless You also. Glad to hear that you are all fine. I have been following all of this on the news and it is a terrible situation. But please clarify something for me so I can be sure I have my facts correct......did Joyce actually say that SHE HERSELF caused the tornadoes in southern Indiana and central Kentucky?
ReplyDeleteOh No she didn't say that but I know she says bad thing will happen to anyone who comes against her. I just thought I would just dig a little in the fact that she truly believes she is anointed and she believes if anyone comes against what she is preaching bad things will happen. I was just trying to be a little will I can't spell what I want to say so I will just say I was trying to be funny. I did hear that in Indiana some of the people who lost their lives were related to Joyce's 2nd husband. It is so sad that their has been so many lives lost during this storm.
ReplyDeleteOh, ok, I am truly glad to hear she didn't say that. She is well known for being so mean to others and saying some really off the wall bizare things, but I am relieved she didn't totally flip out and take it to this level. Oh yes, many of us have heard that "bad things" will come to anyone who speaks against her. People in this community have been hearing this garbage for years. But if somethig bad were to happen to her, for example, if she became seriously ill or lost her home or something tragic happened to a family member, I wonder where she would place the blame for that. I agree with you, it is so sad that many lives have been lost in these storms.
ReplyDeleteJoyce is my sister and I love her. I am praying that she repents and turns from her wicked ways. I do not know what she would do if something bad happened to her. I guess I will get the blame for it. If that happens then she will have to admit that the God I serve is greater then the one she serves and preaches about. Jesus Christ is the LORD of my life. I do not need power or wealth to know what is mine. Like you said in your post she will have to blame someone it surly can't be her fault. You know from my understanding from the Word of God. None of these false teachers will prosper much longer. The sad thing about all of this is Joyce truly believes every word she is preaching. Sad Sad that she has rejected the Shed Blood of Jesus for the name it and claim it gospel. So Joyce just in case you are reading this post take this as a warning so when you meet Jesus Christ and he says " I never knew you get away from me: you can not say you were not warned. Turn from your evil ways and greed. Turn to the Truth which is Jesus Christ died and shed his Blood for the sins of all men. Once and for all. I love you and do not want you to be one of the lost. Sorry but I do not remember how to put my name on this post. It is jfcecil
ReplyDeleteJFCecil, your advice to Joyce is right. When she does meet Jesus, she needs to confess that she has gotten away from Him and will turn from her evil ways and greed, and that Jesus will say to her "you cannot say that you were not warned." But hopefully she will come to know Him and change her ways before the time comes for her to leave this earth. As much as I and hundreds of other people absolutely despise this woman for the way she has treated others, we still don't want her to be a lost soul and end up where she has told the rest of us we are going.
ReplyDeleteAnd speaking of where the rest of us are going, according to the "pastor," if it weren't such a serious matter, it would be almost comical about some of Joyce's shenanigans. She has treated people so horribly,and pulled all the crap that she has, and preached all this garbage, yet she tells everyone else that it is THEY who will go to Hell. But then again, people like her are ALWAYS RIGHT and everyone else is ALWAYS WRONG.
ReplyDeleteWhen you think more of yourself more then you should this is what you get. Some people can not see their own error or sin. They haven't truly asked the LORD Jesus to be the LORD Of their life. When you do not seek first the KINGDOM of God and his Righteousness. We all have to come to the point in our life to agree with what the Word of God says. There is none good no not one other then the Father Romans 3. It is so sad that so many are following this false preacher. I am not saying I am any where near being perfect. I am saying I am open to correction. when you cannot take correction from a man or a woman you most likely will not except it from the LORD. From my understanding many have tried to show Joyce the error of her way and she has rejected this correction. So I know in my heart and it saddens me that she is the blind leading the blind to hell in a hand basket. The Shed Blood of Jesus is the only way. Not shouting Money cometh to me now. This doctrine of devils will take you to hell in a hurry. You see when a little leaven is added it just opens the door for more and more sins or leaven if you want to call it that. It all boils down to self. Jesus nailed the sin nature to the cross. We can always take it off the cross and wear it anytime we want. Pauls Epistles tells us to take up our cross daily. Meaning take what Christ did at the cross and die daily to self. Self is the hardest thing to die. That is why self is something we must put back on the cross daily sometimes many times daily. So all we truly can do about false such as Joyce and others is PRAYER. God is the only one that can deliver our loved one from the hands of these false teachers. JFcecil
ReplyDeleteYou are truly admired and are to be commended for trying so hard to show Joyce the error of her ways. But if she is not willing to change, no one can force her. You have done all you can do. God Bless.
ReplyDeletewell I will keep posting what I believe to be the truth of the Word of God. In order that no one else falls into this trap. It is not about me or about Joyce any more. I just want everyone to know what the truth is. We have no right to put anyone in the place of God. When we can not or will not die to self as Joyce seems not to be able to do then we do open ourselves up to all kinds of greed and evil. I will keep speaking what I believe the LORD is putting on my heart for Joyce and others. Bill sorry if this isn't what you wanted on your blog but this is the only way I have to tell everyone that Jesus paid the price for all men sins on the Cross 2000 Years ago. We can do nothing to earn salvation or his blessing. All God wants us to do is except the fact that we needed a savior and in and of ourselves we cannot do the will of God. We all Needed Jesus to pay the price. Now all we have to do is grow in our relationship with the LORD by the power of the HOLY Spirit that dwells in each person who has accepted Jesus Christ work on the Cross for their salvation. It isn't about me but about HIM who died for us all. Praise God. He is still on the throne Jfcecil
ReplyDeleteI was reading this morning in the book of Proverbs and read these verses Proverbs 18:1 " A man who isolates himself seeks his own desire;He rages against all wise judgment". I started to think about all those who are following Joyce Leiphon. From my understanding she and the ones following her are told not to have anything to do with those who do not accept the teachings of the Doctrine of Greed money cometh to me now. This is so sad because these poor souls and following a doctrine that is contrary to the Word of God.
ReplyDeleteThat's what makes it a cult with a leader who exercises mind control over her followers.
ReplyDeleteI agree with you. I know it is easy for Joyce to do this as she was raised in the largest cult in the World Roman Catholicism. Sorry if any Catholics are reading this post. but I will speak the truth no matter what. It is so sad to leave one cult only to start another one. I am praing for all these cult leaders and cult member to COME OUT FROM THEM SAYS THE LORD. JFCeicl
ReplyDeleteWell I just do not know for sure how to even start this post. Joyce has now involved my unsaved daughter to try to stop me from telling the truth about this false doctrine Joyce is preaching. I love all my sisters and brothers. Well I love all my family and that includes the family of God. I do not want anyone to be lost. I diapered Joyce when she was a baby. Now what I am hearing from my unsaved daughter that Joyce thinks I am jealous of her. I have Jesus as MY savior why would I be jealous of her or anyone else for that matter. I am not happy about how she has perverted the Gospel of Jesus Christ MY REDEEMER. I have all that I need in HIM, So anyone who knows Joyce or can talk to her tell her to repent as I have told her. If I didn't love her and the people she is preaching to I would never have bothered to post anything on here. I have email her and another sister about what Joyce is preaching. They chose to not to answer my questions. I have no idea why except that they do not want loose money. My daughter is so upset about what she was told she believes I will die. Now I am here to tell you The Shed Blood of Jesus covers me. I am not afraid to speak the truth. As a matter of fact I am ready willing and able to die for the truth of Jesus and His shed Blood on Calvary's cross for me and all who are his. will I stop telling the truth about this false doctrine yes when the Lord speaks to my heart and tell me it is time. REpent Joyce before it is to late. I love you and that is the only reason I have said anything you would not talk to me and if this is the only way to get ones to see that the doctrine you are preaching is false then so be it . You did it not I. I ask, you would not reply JFCECIL
ReplyDeleteQuestion: "What does the Bible say about the prosperity gospel?"
ReplyDeleteAnswer: In the prosperity gospel, also known as the “Word of Faith,” the believer is told to use God, whereas the truth of biblical Christianity is just the opposite—God uses the believer. Word of Faith or prosperity theology sees the Holy Spirit as a power to be put to use for whatever the believer wills. The Bible teaches that the Holy Spirit is a Person who enables the believer to do God's will. The prosperity gospel movement closely resembles some of the destructive greed sects that infiltrated the early church. Paul and the other apostles were not accommodating to or conciliatory with the false teachers who propagated such heresy. They identified them as dangerous false teachers and urged Christians to avoid them.
Paul warned Timothy about such men in 1 Timothy 6:5, 9-11. These men of “corrupt mind” supposed godliness was a means of gain and their desire for riches was a trap that brought them “into ruin and destruction” (v. 9). The pursuit of wealth is a dangerous path for Christians and one which God warns about: “For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs” (v. 10). If riches were a reasonable goal for the godly, Jesus would have pursued it. But He did not, preferring instead to have no place to lay His head (Matthew 8:20) and teaching His disciples to do the same. It should also be remembered that the only disciple concerned with wealth was Judas.
Paul said covetousness is idolatry (Ephesians 5:5) and instructed the Ephesians to avoid anyone who brought a message of immorality or covetousness (Ephesians 5:6-7). Prosperity teaching prohibits God from working on His own, meaning that God is not Lord of all because He cannot work until we release Him to do so. Faith, according to the Word of Faith doctrine, is not submissive trust in God; faith is a formula by which we manipulate the spiritual laws that prosperity teachers believe govern the universe. As the name “Word of Faith” implies, this movement teaches that faith is a matter of what we say more than whom we trust or what truths we embrace and affirm in our hearts.
A favorite term in the Word of Faith movement is “positive confession.” This refers to the teaching that words themselves have creative power. What you say, Word of Faith teachers claim, determines everything that happens to you. Your confessions, especially the favors you demand of God, must all be stated positively and without wavering. Then God is required to answer (as though man could require anything of God!). Thus, God's ability to bless us supposedly hangs on our faith. James 4:13-16 clearly contradicts this teaching: “Now listen, you who say, ‘Today or tomorrow we will go to this or that city, spend a year there, carry on business and make money.’ Why, you do not even know what will happen tomorrow. What is your life? You are a mist that appears for a little while and then vanishes.” Far from speaking things into existence in the future, we do not even know what tomorrow will bring or even whether we will be alive.
Instead of stressing the importance of wealth, the Bible warns against pursuing it. Believers, especially leaders in the church (1 Timothy 3:3), are to be free from the love of money (Hebrews 13:5). The love of money leads to all kinds of evil (1 Timothy 6:10). Jesus warned, “Watch out! Be on your guard against all kinds of greed; a man's life does not consist in the abundance of his possessions” (Luke 12:15). In sharp contrast to the Word of Faith emphasis on gaining money and possessions in this life, Jesus said, “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal” (Matthew 6:19). The irreconcilable contradictions between prosperity teaching and the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ is best summed up in the words of Jesus in Matthew 6:24, “You cannot serve both God and money.” JfCecil
I just wanted to leave my story on the blog. I was raised in a very Catholic home. By the time I was 17 after seeing so much in the church I didn't believe their was a god. My life showed this as I did everything I thought I was big enough to do. I accepted Jesus Christ as my savior when I was twenty 27. I studied the word of God for two years. Thinking I was ready to face the world the flesh and the devil, I soon found that the harder I tried to live a Christian life the more I failed. I had the baptism of the Holy Spirit yet I failed over and over again. I am now 65 years old. I love Jesus with all my heart soul and mind. It took the LORD 26 years to get for me to realize that Jesus was 100% human and still 100% God but while on this earth he had to depend on the Father God to lead and guide him through all that was going to come is way. The difference between me and Jesus was, I had a sin nature and Jesus did not. In 2000 the LORD showed me the truth about myself. That I could not life a Christian life no matter how hard I tried. He showed me that if I would yield to HiM and allow HIM to live His life through me I would be an overcomer. Do I always allow him to lead and guide me in the way I should walk or talk. No neither does anyone else. Jesus has all the fullness of the Godhead in HIM we only have a portion of this fullness. I have been a sinner saved by the Grace of OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST. I only want to do the things MY LORD and Savior tells me to do. In the years before 2000 I have lived like the devil as I could not live a Christ like life. I could never measure up to that standard. Now I am living a Christ life life as I am not wanting the things of this world but only dying to myself daily. Self is our biggest obstacle of life. Jesus defeated the devil at the Cross. the devil knows this that is why he has used many preacher to pervert the Good News of Jesus Christ. I have been asked to leave several churches because of their refusal listen to the truth about this gospel of Greed they are teaching. I cannot be a part of lies and half truths. IF the preacher is not preaching Jesus Christ and HIM Crucified is the only way to salvation run do not walk. If the preacher is telling you to follow their lead run do not walk. IF a preacher tells you God wants you to be wealthy according to the World's standard run. We have it all in JESUS CHRIST there is nothing to add to what he did at the CROSS. my email address is jfcecil2009@gmail if anyone would like to contact me my Phone # is 5025102713. God bless you all and I ask My God to reveal HIS truth to you in any manner he chooses even if it is through a donkey just like when God spoke through Balaams,In Christ LOVE JF Cecil
ReplyDeleteI should have added this to my post. If mine and Joyce's dad was still with us I am telling you he would have at the Church door the minute Joyce started teaching this false doctrine. He himself would have confronted her face to face just like Paul did to Peter when he was trying to put the gentles back under the law. Our Dad would been there in a flash he would have locked the doors himself. He had told Joyce the name it and claim it was not of the LORD yet she still uses this doctrine to gain her earthly wealth. I am so glad our Dad has gone to be with the LORD as he would have been so hurt to know one of his children who professes to be a child of God would pervert the Gospel that he loved and preached dear to his heart would turn and preach another Jesus. Janice Cecil
ReplyDeleteI have to clear up something I wrote in a post I made. My minds runs ahead of my fingers sometime. I did not mean to imply that Joyce told my daughter I would die because I was coming against her. It is just my daughter was up set about my sisters bad mouthing me to her and she was afraid I was going to get upset about this. The only thing that upsets me is Joyce and the other sisters all know the problems and they should not concern her but talk to me. Praise God
ReplyDeleteIt was all at the cross Jesus gave to us
ReplyDeleteHis Life, His love, His joy.
It was all at the cross when we chose Him
where forgiveness of all sin is ours
It was all at the cross Jesus died for me and you.
he paid the debt the world could not pay.
The debt the world did not know they owed.
It was all at the cross Jesus gave his love
It was all at the cross that Jesus did say
"it is finished" no more to be done.
at the cross is all love, At the cross is our freedom to gain
it was all at the cross all love came.
The love or our God, who gave his all that you and I should live with him for all eternity
It is all in the message of the cross he gave the way to him. It was and is all at the cross: written by Janice Cecil 3/9/2012 jfcecil
The LORD is watching Joyce and HE is NOT happy.
ReplyDeleteJust finished reading : "The Midas" Touch by Kenneth E Hagin. Great book it tells the truth about the money cometh to me now doctrine. We all must be careful where we put our money. We do support the church and the Minister of God who is preaching the truth rightly dividing the word of God. this is a great book as far as being a good steward of your money and the schemes many preacher have fallen into. So all you who want the blessing of God. Read the Real Truth for your self it is all written in the Word of God called the Bible. Do not take another man or woman's word for what it says. God bless you all. jFcecil
ReplyDeleteI don't know how this woman sleeps at night, but, again, sociopaths have no conscience. They will stop at nothing to get whatever they want; and they don't care how it affects others.
ReplyDeleteI just want to say that back in the 1970's mine and Joyce's dad wrote a paper. Well he wrote many papers but this one kind of sticks in my mind and I am only writing a portion of it.
ReplyDeleteHe said "If you want the truth about anything you must first be willing to accept the fact that you could be wrong". HE had only been saved a few years. Jesus gave this man a willing heart to be used by the LORD. He was willing to accept the fact that he could be wrong. It is nothing but Pride when you place yourself up as being right and those who do not accept your teaching are of the devil. Who give us the right to think this way. I will tell you it sure isn't the LORD Jesus Christ. Could it be from the devil?
Would say it is most definitely from the devil. We remember Joyce telling others that they would "go to Hell" if they did not see eye to eye with her or agree 100% with her on every issue. And like she just recently told (was it your niece or your daughter), that she was a "child of the devil?" It's amazing how an individual who "professes" to be such a good Christian talks down to others like she does. If she continues down this path, she will most assuredly find herself sitting in the company of the devil instead of with our Lord.
ReplyDeleteIt was my daughter she called a child of the devil. Joyce is well what can I say I truly believe she is mentally ill. But I think that of anyone who thinks they are something when they are not better then anyone else. I would rather hang around a person who is not professing to Know Jesus then someone who profess to know him yet treats people the way she does. Most of my family think I am nuts. That is okay with me because you see I know who my savior is and it isn't Joyce Leiphon. Another one of my daughters is not with Joyce. I do not know how long this will last as honestly she has been there before and could not stand to be around Joyce and her phoney ways. So what ever you hear about me well it may be true and may not you see I do not care one way or the other about what is said about me. I just want those you are using the Name of MY Savior and Lord Jesus to be honest and teach truth instead of lies. I agree with you about who Joyce will be spending time with if she doesn't repent. One more thing before she calls other peoples children the " child of the Devil she needs to be looking at her own daughter. You know the old saying people who live in glass houses should never throw stones. I am still praying for the LORD to show Joyce the error of her way before it is to late. Jfceil
ReplyDeleteMay God Bless You, Ms. Cecil; you sound like a wonderful person. Everything you have just said in your post is absolutely true and I could not agree more. And for that matter, there are a lot of people who agree with you.
ReplyDeleteThe only thing that can change Joyce or anyone for that matter is the Person I call Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. We need to be praying for this lost soul. Not everyone who says they are called of God to preach are truly called of the God of all the living. I place all my trust in the LORD Jesus and I do believe he will call Joyce to repentance. At least that is my prayer and since I believe the LORD hears the prayer of those you ask according to the will of God will be answered. God our Father does not want anyone no matter who they are to be lost. So I am praying for Joyce and all who are following her. JFCecil
ReplyDeleteI do want to tell everyone who is following the "word faith" and "Money cometh to me now" doctrine you truly should read the book by Kenneth E Hagen " the Midas Touch". If your pastor tells you it is from the devil run from that Pastor as they probably haven't read the book. It is full of Scripture telling you how to prosper and ask for your need to be met. It was about becoming a doctrine and anyone still preaching the word of faith or the prosperity message have missed the Gospel of Jesus Christ and what it means. I have read the book. It has changed my mind of Tithing. I now understand it and have no problem with tithing but I will not tithe to a church where the money is going into the pocket of the preacher. IF he or she needs money tell them to get a job. I will not give money to any preacher or church that is not Preaching the FINISHED WORK OF JESUS CHRIST AT THE CROSS OF CALVARY. Jf Cecil
ReplyDeleteI have one question to anyone who would care to answer. The bible tells me that Jesus Christ died on the Cross to forgive all sin. Free us from sin and death which is what we had under the law. My question is Why would anyone want to go back under the law of sin and death now that Jesus Chris has fulfilled the requirements of the law? why is the law so important today in the churches. I would also like to know why so many preacher are teaching you have to pay tithes and offering if you want to be blessed by God or get a healing. I have never paid tithes. I have given yet never paid tithes. I have been greatly blessed by my God. He has healed me of cancer and I didn't have to pay for it as Jesus pay the debt over 2000 years ago.
ReplyDeleteI want to know why people in the light of the world church cannot talk to anyone who does not believe in the teaching of Joyce Leiphon. How can any one decide if that want to be a part of this church if you will not answer the questions being asked? I wonder where the church that Jesus Christ is the Head of would be told if Peter John and Paul and the rest of the Apostles did not answer there question. One more thought who is infallible. The pope Joyce leiphon, Leroy Thompson kenneth copeland who? I always thought that the only infallible was the God the Father Son and Holy Spirit. I am sorry but when a preacher tell me that I have to believe everything he or she says well I think it is time to find a new church. So before you buy into what ever these wolves in sheep clothing is selling you had better find out just what Jesus did for you at the Cross at Calvary when he said " It is finished". God does not want your money he wants you. Any one preaching Money cometh to me now is a false teacher run and Joyce you need to get saved. You were born in sin and from what I see you are still in sin leading many to eternal damnation. YOu are my sister and I love you and My prayer is that you see the error of your teaching and turn from your evil ways to the LORD who Saved you which you are denying by teaching this false doctrine. Janice Cecil
ReplyDeleteCults believe they have a corner on the truth. They may use a specific set of texts to create their own truth, interpret the Bible according to a set doctrine, or hold the words of the cult leader equal with the words of the Bible or God. Cult members hear that the only truth lies within the teachings of the cult and access to other sources of spiritual wisdom may be restricted
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I talked to someone the other day and this person told me something that they were told to do at light of the world church. Well I have decided to do some of this my self. this is what I am going to do. I am going to get a peg board and put a picture of Joyce Leiphon on it and ask My LORD and Savior Jesus to ask the Father to draw her unto HIM. To deliver her from the Bondage of the false doctrine she believes and teaches. This picture will remind me to continue to pray for her and all who follow her. Thank you Jesus for answered prayers.
ReplyDeleteLet us also remember that the prosperity/Word of Faith “gospel” is a false, heretical gospel that decieves the gullible into thinking that God wants them “dripping in ice” (i.e. wearing expensive diamonds and other jewelry) and “pushing big whips dripping in candy paint” (i.e. driving big expensive cars with vibrant colors).
ReplyDeleteEven worse, dogs like Pimp Leroy, Creflo Dollar, Kenneth Copeland, and other 2-bit hustlers have the ba…I mean, nerve to publicly declare that we can command “covenant wealth” from God because it is our “divine right” and He is obligated to do it.
There is all kinds of good stuff on the internet if you would just look for it. Anyone can be fooled for a while and there truly is no shame in that. but to remain blind to fact out fear or choice is what is shameful. Many who have left the Money cometh to me now had realize it was and is still a false gospel and are speaking out against it. The greed gospel has destroyed families, cost many their homes just so the preacher could become wealthy. Jesus said " come out from them" I found the top part of this post on the internet. The bottom is mine. JfCecil
I will have to say this. In these post I never intended to speak against Joyce's character. I know her well she is my natural born sister. I love her. I am praying for her and I am apologizing to her and everyone reading these post for the things I have said about her character. However, I am still saying and will continue to say. She is teaching a false gospel. She is preaching that Jesus did not do enough at the cross to give you all the Blessings. YOur blessing come from a personal relationship with the LORD JESUS. { HE has to be your LORD} There is nothing we can do to receive from God the Father except to go through Jesus. You can quote scripture until the cows come home but unless you are truly born again seeking the things of God and not the things of this world you will never receive the truth. The truth is and has always been WE received it all when Jesus Christ willing obeyed the Father and died on the cross raised from the dead after three days and night and ascended into heaven. Nailing our sins past present and future to the cross raised us with him. Jesus is our only mediator between me and my God and Father. Read the first two chapters 1Cor. it tells us each and everyone one of us the truth. Even Paul preach this. He was truly called of God. JfCecil
ReplyDeleteOf course Joyce is going to complain about what is being said on this site. Because EVERYTHING that has been said about her is TRUE; and she doesn't want the world to know how truly EVIL she is !
ReplyDeleteShe wants to keep fooling people and doesn't want them to see the real Joyce.
ReplyDeletesitting here thinking about everything posted on this site I have decided to tell everyone who is involved with the Word of Faith teaching including "money cometh" teaching go to youtube.com and listen to the teaching of Malcolm Smith or even Charles Stanely and Jimmy Swaggart. You will truly be blessed and will find the truth. If Joyce is not afraid of the truth she will encourage you to listen to these men who are Truly Men of God. I will go as far to tell everyone reading these post even if you are not a follower of this false doctrine go to these site. You will truly be blessed. JF Cecil
ReplyDeleteThere are no words to express how extremely thankful and grateful we are that Joyce Leiphon is no longer a part of our lives. Thank you, Jesus!
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